CNM 050: The Loving Path To Family Recovery – with Beverly Buncher

Welcome to episode 50!

In this episode we have an incredible guest on the show – someone I met earlier this year.

I’m especially excited about this guest because she has answers to the most frequently asked questions that I get.

Her name is Beverly Buncher, author of BALM: The Loving Path To Family Recovery (link at the bottom of this post), and Beverly has been able to personally discover, systemize, and then teach and coach other people strategies and tactics for precisely how to navigate relationships with difficult people; people who may be substance users, mentally ill family members, people with personality or behavioral disorders, or people who are just plain difficult to relate to.

Her philosophy picks up where many philosophies and programs tend to leave us feeling a little hopeless or powerless. We’re often left in a place where we know we shouldn’t enable bad behavior, and we want to stay away from other people’s drama. So sometimes we conclude that all we can do is set boundaries, keep our distance, cross our fingers and hope for the best.

But Beverly’s philosophy picks up and kicks into high gear right at this point. Her philosophy suggests that there are very specific things that we can do to contribute to the recovery and better behavior of our loved ones. To become healthier and more peaceful ourselves, and possibly even influence our loved ones to do the same.

We’ll be doing a 4-part mini-series with Beverly, and I’m very excited for what you’re about to hear. Beverly’s work has been a spark of new found hope and change in many people’s lives, and who knows, maybe it will be for you too.

So, let’s have a listen. Here’s my first interview with Beverly Buncher of Family Recovery Resources.

Interview on The Loving Path with Beverly Buncher

Brian: Beverly, welcome to the show. It’s so nice to have you with us today.

Beverly: Thank you so much, Brian. It’s so good to be here.

Brian: Yeah. I’ve been very excited about interviewing you. We have a whole mini-series coming up with you in three of our episodes and then one of your students is going to be in one of the episodes as well so we’ll have four in total.

I’m very excited about it. I had a chance to read your book in the last couple of months. We’ve chatted in the past and decided that this would be a great opportunity since we have so much overlap in what we’re doing.

Questions: I wonder if we could just start by having you tell us your story. What’s happened in your life that led you to the work that you’re doing now?

Beverly: As is often the case, the things that hurt the most can sometimes be the things that help the most. For me, I think the thing that happened to me as a child was my dad was emotionally abusive and I had a cousin who abused me. I was vulnerable. I was a real smart, a very empathic kid, and extremely sensitive. In fact, the big line around my family was, “You’re too sensitive.”

As I grew, some of the things that happened to me as a child started to haunt me. Around that time that I was dealing with all of the inner turmoil that I have, my sister was struggling with her own use disorder. I was dealing with a use disorder of over-eating and she was dealing with her use disorder. It was just very interesting around our house.

At a certain point, we grew up, she got an apartment, and I got an apartment across the hall from her. I was in a twelve-step program at that time for my over-eating. I noticed at night that she was constantly going back and forth in her apartment. I could hear it. We were on the third floor walk-up of the big-old house. I thought, “Wow, she’s probably going to go into interior design. She’s spending the whole night walking back and forth and moving furniture around.”

One night she knocked on my door and she said, “Listen, I’ve got to tell you something. I have a problem and I am solving it.”

I said,“What’s your problem?”

She said, “I’ve been using drugs and I’m going to get some help and I’m now in AA.” She joined her twelve-step program and I thought, ‘Well then, I need to go to Al-Anon.’  I went to Al-Anon meetings and I thought, ‘This is great. I could handle an alcoholic.’ The fact is I had always dated alcoholics. I had always been someone who attracted guys who struggled in different areas of their lives just as I was struggling in different areas of my life.

There I was in Al-Anon, and about a year down the road I met my husband. In fact, a friend fixed us up. She said, “Would you like to go on a date?”

I said, “I’d be happy to go on a date with him but I have an Al-Anon meeting tonight.”

We went on our date and he picked me up and he said, “My mom’s in Al-Anon.”

I said, “Wow, are you recovered?” (thinking that he must be sober for some reason), and he said, “Oh, no. I’m crazy as ever.” That started our journey together.

I tell the story in greater detail in my book, but I married someone who was actively using drugs and alcohol. I was in Al-Anon trying to figure out what to do. Of course people told me, “Get rid of him.” I told people that I was marrying the guy, and a lady at Al-Anon meeting said to me, “What’s wrong with you? You must have the lowest self-esteem.”

I looked to her and I said, “Yeah. And your point is?” (laughs) But I love the guy, he was the nicest alcoholic I ever met. That’s what I told people and that’s what I felt.

We got married and very soon after we got married, within two days, I realized that was in much deeper than I understood because this was a very, very sick person. He had real problems. He needed substances in order to get through a day; in order to survive. Of course, I didn’t know this at that time but his brain was telling him that he absolutelyneeded substances more than anything else to survive. I needed to learn how to cope with this. Every day I would go back and forth, “Should I stay? Should I go? Should I stay? Should I go?” My journey was one of figuring out what I wanted to do and when I decided to stay, how I was going to be loving and be someone who contributed to his ability to get well while also taking good care of myself.

Brian: Thank you for that introduction. That tees up the story for the listeners. I’m positive that a large percentage of people listening will identify with that, having somebody in their life who has substance use issues and/or maybe other types of issues that are causing friction and wondering, ‘Should I stay or should I go?’, and wanting to stay but not knowing how to stay and have a healthy relationship.

Let’s unpack this story a lot more and move forward a little bit. After you realized the situation that you were in (how ‘sick’ your husband was), you eventually went on to learn some techniques and skills to deal with the situation, and really became a pioneer in dealing with this type of situation. That led you to create what’s called the BALM which stands for Be A Loving Mirror.

Questions: Can you help us understand with this principle of BALM, what are what you call The Seven C’s of BALM?

Beverly: The seven C’s of BALM actually emerged out of Al-Anon. The process that you described of realizing that I had a problem and figuring out how to help my husband happened rather quickly. Within nine months of us getting married, he got recovered, went to meetings, and told everyone it was because of me. Earlier than that, move it back a bit, I learned in Al-Anon the four C’s; you didn’t cause his addiction, you can’t control it, you can’t cure it, but you don’t have to contribute to it.

In those days, the fourth C– you don’t have to contribute to it – was the one I heard most loudly and it was said a lot back then. Over the years, I noticed that fading away because my belief is that what happened was divorce became so easy for people that they look at this terrible situation they’re in and they think, ‘I don’t need this, I’m out of here. I didn’t cause it, I can’t control it, I can’t cure it. I’m out.’

I didn’t want to leave. I was a newlywed. I love my husband and I learned how to contribute to recovery through almost hidden techniques in Al-Anon that you had to stick around for a long time to learn. But I dug deep, I had a wonderful sponsor, and I got a lot of help. My husband got sober within nine months and we had many, many good years together.

Fast forward, I’d say about twelve years later, we were both doing really great. We had great careers, and things started to unravel, and they unraveled slowly. They say that anything you give up your recovery for will eventually take your recovery away from you. That’s what happened with us. We became really successful in our careers and eventually both of us relapsed; first me, then him. Then I was the one who sort of pulled it back together and I looked at those four C’s; didn’t cause it, can’t control it, can’t cure it, don’t have to contribute to it.

When I redid all the things that I learned how to do and he got well again, that was around the time my husband actually had his big relapse after about eighteen years of sobriety. I was in a relapse also. I got well first. (That often happens, the family gets well first and then the loved one.) I was a high school principal, became a coach, and developed the BALM. The BALM eventually had seven C’s and here’s how they go; you didn’t cause your loved ones SUD (substance use disorder), you can’t control it, you can’t cure it – we take that fourth C (you don’t have to contribute to it) and we turned it around – you can contribute to their recovery. That’s my experience, the experience of many, many clients, the readers of the book, students of the BALM, and coaches of the BALM.

Then there are three more C’s; you are connectedto your loved one on a level deeper than their SUD. The stigma is enormous. If you don’t have someone who has a use disorder, but they’re just extremely dysfunctional in one way or another, think of it this way – you are connected to your loved one regardless of their struggles, that your love transcends the struggle. That can be very powerful if you connect with that. Because all of a sudden, your loved one isn’t “an addict” or a miserable person, they’re a person who’s struggling and you’re connected on the love level.

Number six is you can learn how to communicate with your loved one and others. So often, our communication gets really messed up when we’re confronted with this traumatizing event. Relearning how to communicate first with inner spirit, self, and then with others is critical and the BALM is all about that communication.

Finally, you are always at choice. We have people who come into the BALM and they discover a way to really help themselves and their family. Our process is a dual process; 1) help yourself, 2) help your loved one. We teach people both of those things. Sometimes, you are able to get help and the things that you do actually contribute to recovery, and your loved one gets well too. Sometimes, your loved one continues to struggle and some people decide to stay and some people decide to go. We don’t judge or make decisions for anyone. We advocate for whole families when that’s the best thing for the family. We also advocate for loving interaction whether the family stays together or not, whether the loved one gets recovery or not, they’re still a human being. So the BALM teaches our families, our coaches, and all of the people who come in contact with us about the idea of being loving regardless of the other person; that being loving is something that we’re called to do. It’s our primary task in life.

Brian: Thank you for sharing all of that.

Question: I want to clarify a couple of things for the audience too that they might be confused about. Just in case, when you say SUD, do you mean substance use disorder?

Beverly: Yes, I do – substance use disorder – and of course there are many use disorders. There are gambling use disorders and eating use disorders. Many of our families have loved ones with a substance use disorder.

Question: Let’s say there’s somebody listening who has a family member that they’re having similar sounding issues with but they don’t have a substance use disorder. Maybe it’s some sort of behavioral issue; maybe it’s bipolar or maybe it’s something else. I believe you mentioned to me in a previous conversation that this philosophy that you’ve helped pioneer can apply to many things outside of just substance use disorder, is that right?

Beverly: Oh, my gosh. Yes. It’s really interesting. We have twelve principles and seven steps. I was teaching the twelve principles, and coaches asked me to train them to help other families, so I did. They saw how I helped families learn how to have these conversations and shepherded them through a process to having these powerful conversations with their loved ones and others. They said, “But we don’t know how to do that,” and all of that came the seven steps to be a loving mirror. The seven steps are the core of our program and they can be applied to any situation in life that requires powerful loving communication, which is almost all, if not all relationships that we’re in.

Brian: Thank you for clarifying. If you have a substance user in the family, or somebody with a mental disorder, maybe you have a child with ADHD, or if you are closely intertwined with somebody who tends to be controlling or even manipulative with you, this philosophy, this conversation can apply equally to everybody.

Beverly: One hundred percent. It was developed in a family where there was SUD. Here’s what happened, one of our coaches who is in recovery and has a small family business started to use the BALM conversation at work. He came back one day to coach training – this was years and years ago, his story is in my book – and he said, “You know? I’m having BALM conversations with people at work and all of a sudden it’s hitting me, this applies everywhere.”

Another person is a parenting coach. She was using it with parents. It’s completely unrelated to any kind of use disorder. She was teaching the parents to use it with their kids. This is a method of communicating that helps you to embody and express love while sharing the facts so that another person can hear it without putting up their defenses. It’s a loving approach to family recovery from whatever ails you.

Brian: Perfect. I want to really impress that upon the audience because I don’t want someone who hears substance use to automatically tune out because there isn’t substance use disorder in their home. This will apply to, I would assume, the vast majority of people listening, anyone who’s saying, ‘I want to be more assertive. I want to have better boundaries. I want to not be so affected by someone who’s maybe mistreating me.’ This applies to all of you and things even beyond what I just mentioned.

Let’s really listen in here and see what Beverly can share. Let’s move on to what you call The Loving Path.The first part of your book, the whole first section is called The Loving Path.

Questions: What do you mean by the loving path? What do we need to know in order to make the transition into the loving path?

Beverly: This is my favorite thing to talk about. The loving path is a path that sees each and every one of us as being on a journey; our lives are a journey. We’re always at choice as to whether we’re going to treat other people with respect or treat them as whatever their problem is. The better we feel about ourselves, the more able we are to have loving conversations with people.

The loving path is about establishing ourselves in our deepest wellness as we learn how to speak lovingly with others. It’s egoless, it’s powerful. In essence, that’s the loving path. The loving path is about being there for others in a way that allows them to fully be themselves without us intervening with judgment, lecture, or fixing. The loving path is walking in such a way that we’re on a growth walk and we respect others whether they choose to consciously be on a growth walk or not. The loving path recognizes that every person is given the opportunity for growth that also has a choice as to whether or not they will pursue that opportunity and doesn’t judge others for making different choices.

Brian: Excellent. Let’s get into that more.

Question: The next question is what role does the family play in the recovery of a loved one?

Beverly: The BALM is a dual-focused program. The family plays a critical role in a loved one’s potential recovery. The first thing that a family member can be served by awakening to is this idea of their role.Many times, families come to us and they want help with their loved one. We say, “Okay, we’re going to help you get your life back and help them get their life back.” Some families say right away, “There isn’t a need to be any focus on me, they’re the problem.” We say, “When you learn what you need to learn, you will get your life back.”That’s our process; teaching people how to get their lives back (that’s the family’s role) and how to communicate differently so that your loved one has a better chance of getting their lives back.

A lot of families think their loved one goes to treatment and it’s over, ‘Everything’s fine now.’ Then the loved one comes home, and the family behaves the same way they behaved before, and things are really bad. It goes down from there. Then the family is contributing to things getting worse and worse and worse.

Let’s say your loved one isn’t a user of drugs, alcohol, or some other substance or behavior. Let’s say they have a mental illness and they’re getting help with it, but you don’t change. If they’re still having contact with you and you’re not changing, you’re not helping contribute to their recovery. It’s almost like you’re holding them back. It’s hard to face but it’s true.

Contributing to recovery is about learning new ways of being, thinking, and behaving. It’s about understanding the importance of self-care, learning how to be a loving mirror with them, setting boundaries appropriately, and so much more.

Brian: Just for the listeners, the next episode in our mini-series will be all about practical strategies. We’ll unpack those quite a bit. We still have plenty more to talk about in this episode and we will talk about some things you can do. But we’ll really, really unpack a lot of those in the next episode as well. Certainly stay tuned for that.

With respect to what you’re mentioning here, in the book, you mentioned that it’s very important to stay “in the moment.” This is an area where some twelve-step programs and support groups don’t really have much of a focus on mindfulness, in some cases, but you have a very intentional focus on mindfulness and being in the moment.

Question: Why do you think it’s so important to stay in the moment on a day-to-day basis when working the BALM?

Beverly: I would like to make a small correction there. The twelve-step programs are all about staying in the moment completely, that’s all we have. In Al-Anon they say, “You have one day at a time, one hour at a time, one moment at a time.” What we added was the mindfulness component consciously. In twelve-steps, they say, “Pray and meditate.” We actually talk about developing a mindful practice so that you can be in the moment. We teach mindful practices and we encourage mindfulness because we know that it’s so easy to go off into your head about all the things that are bothering you. If you do that, you absolutely will not help yourself, you’ll not help anyone else.

I used to have days where the end of the day would come and I couldn’t remember anything because I’d lived it in my head and went through it en route. Mindfulness is about being in each moment so that I can appreciate each second that I have of life. When I’m doing that, when I’m not living in my head but I’m living in the moments, I’m able to live my life without obsession or worry. It’s definitely a practice, it’s not something that just happens for most of us.

Question: To that point, is there a quick practice, habit, or even just a small tip to share about staying in the moment that you teach people?

Beverly: Oh, yeah. One of the first things we teach is four-four-eight; breathe in to the count of four, hold it to the count of four, breathe out to the count of eight. We invite our families to wake up to that practice. Do it for about four or five times in the morning up to five minutes. Breathe in to the count of four, hold it to the count of four, and breathe out to the count of eight. Repeat it.

We suggest doing it in the morning, in the midday, and as you’re falling asleep at night so that this becomes a habit, a mindful practice. Then when something hits (a tense moment), you automatically breathe in to the count of four, hold it to the count of four, and breathe out to eight. Now the automatic doesn’t happen automatically. It’s a practice. When stress comes, breathe in to the count of four, hold it to the count of four, and breathe out to the count of eight. Do that until you’re able to think again.

Brian: There you go. There’s a nice tip for when you feel those obsessive thoughts coming and when your mind just won’t shut off, there’s something that you can start to do and even first thing in the morning and last thing before you go to bed at night. Thank you for that tip. There’s, again, plenty more to expand upon as we move through the mini-series here.

Question: You also have an exercise to help people move from confusion to clarity. How does that exercise work and when should people use it?

Beverly: Yes, and of course, the exercise is laid out in full with the chart in my book. Our coaches use it extensively. It’s called “Clear-Unclear” and it works like this; you have a problem that’s bothering you, you write that problem on a piece of paper, and you think about it for a moment. Then you have two columns on the piece of paper like a T-chart. In the first column, you put the word Clearand you write down everything you know for sure. Maybe the problem is, ‘What is going on with my husband, my son, my daughter, or my friend?’ You don’t know what it is but you know something’s very wrong. So you write down the facts of what you know; just the facts, the things you know for sure.

Now, this exercise can really trip you up because there are a lot of things we think we know and Clear-Unclear is an exercise of discernment. This is where you make a distinction between facts and the thoughts in our head that are telling us, ‘It’s probably this way or may be this way,’ or ‘I’ve come to this conclusion because…’ It’s not about conclusions, it’s about concrete facts.

Here’s an example; ‘What’s wrong with my friend?’ Here’s a fact; ‘Last night, he walked in, his eyes were glassy, he swayed across the room, he fell over the coffee table, and passed out.’ Those are facts. ‘Two days ago, he slurred his words,’ and so on and so forth. Your facts might be completely different, remembering that my perspective is I’m usually working with people who have a use disorder, or the family members of people with a use disorder, or who may be experimenting or using and not have the disorder, but nobody’s sure how bad it is yet. If somebody is doing something that’s just odd to you, maybe it has nothing to do with substances, maybe it has to do with the internet or with cheating; it could be anything. But instead of coming to the conclusion, you just write the facts.

Yesterday the phone rang and my husband walked into the other room and shut the door. When he came out – and these are the facts to write down – he told me it was a business call. Those are the facts. Two weeks ago, he had a business call and he answered it in front of me. These are just facts.

Here’s the thing, facts can be crazy-making if they pass by and we make conclusions about them, and then we push them down because we don’t want to really face them. Clear-Unclear is abou learning to discern between what’s real and what’s made up.

Let’s say, one of the things you’re about to write on the clear side is, ‘I think he might be cheating on me.’ That goes in the unclear chart, on the unclear side. The first side is clear and the second side is unclear. ‘I think he might be cheating on me.’ ‘Do you know it for sure?’ ‘No.’ ‘Then you’re not clear.’ You might write it as a question, ‘Is he cheating on me?’

Fact, ‘Every conversation is all about him or her. When I start to talk about me, she turns the conversation back to herself.’ Then you might write, ‘I think she’s self-centered,’ or ‘I think she’s a narcissist,’or we would say, ‘You don’t know that, you’re making it up,’ unless there’s a diagnosis.

You go to the other side, ‘Is she narcissistic? Is she self-centered?’ We don’t label the clear and unclear. We describe what we see and hear. Once you’ve written everything you know for sure, look again to make sure you’re absolutely clear about it. Then, look at your other side. First look at the things you’re clear about. What comes to mind from that, write it on the bottom of the list on the clear side or it may give you a few more questions (put those on the unclear side). Then look at your Unclear side and see if any of the facts have given your answers or a way forward; something that it’s time to handle, someone that you need to get help from.

This is a powerful exercise. Our families and our coaches use it again, and again, and again because what it does is it moves people in the direction of being objective observers of their lives. It’s very valuable for a person who strives to be mindful and is also the result of being mindful.

Brian: Yeah. Thank you for clarifying how to use it once you’ve done that. I was wanting to make sure we got there too. Once you do the Clear-Unclear exercise, you can look at those facts. Make sure they’re actually facts and then take the unclear and write your conclusions down at the bottom. That can also help inform you what you could do next once you’ve laid it all out where, ‘This is black and white. This is unclear. Now, where can I go from here?’ rather than having it all jumbled around in your head not knowing what’s clear versus unclear and maybe acting upon that in a way that’s going to defeat you, yourself in the end.

Beverly: Yeah. The journey of this book has been so interesting. I can’t tell you how many people have done the Clear-Unclear chart, called up, and said, “You know, I need some help here. This is not a journey I can handle myself.” We say, “It takes what it takes.” For some people, they read the book and they find all the solutions they need in it to move themselves and their life forward while other people find they need more help. But this is the beginning to figure out, ‘What am I facing?’

Question: In the book you also mentioned several times the practice of scripting conversation. That might come as a result of your Clear-Unclear exercise; maybe you realized that it’s time to have a conversation with a loved one. You mentioned the practice of scripting that conversation ahead of time. I’m wondering, why do you recommend doing that and how is that useful?

Beverly: Scripting comes out of documenting which comes out of Clear-Unclear. Clear-Unclear comes out of having a mindful practice. On the basis of peaceful awareness, one is able to observe what’s really going on and then write down what they’re clear about. Then you have to deal with the emotions that come up. By the way, this is an ongoing process, those three things; mindfulness, objective awareness, awareness of internal feelings and emotions without judgment, this is a lifelong practice, we believe. Then we invite our families as they’re growing in that internal way to start to document what they see and hear as they go so that they can get a sense of what’s really happening. It’s hard to be helpful if you don’t know what’s going on.

The natural thing to do when you’re facing a very difficult situation is to see something, confront it, then they tell you you’re crazy and you go back into denial because it’s just too painful. People document and you’re looking for a pattern. Then once you have a pattern of two or three times that something’s happening, we teach you how to script the conversation. Scripting the conversation in advance will allow for it to be a loving conversation. That’s very important for us.

Tone is very important. If your loved one hears a tone that’s judgmental, resentful, malicious, upset, imbalanced, chances are they will not hear what you’re saying, they will only hear your upset, imbalance, resentment, anger. The idea in order to be your loved one’s best chance of recovery, which is what we believe you are, is to script loving conversation (after you document the facts) in such a way that they can hear it. That’s why the scripting is important, so you’re not just going off-the-cuff.

Brian: I love that you mentioned how important tone is. I’ve noticed that in my life too. Even if you have the right words to say, how you say it can trigger someone and set them right off into not even hearing a word that you said. How you say it is just as important as what you say. But the power of actually getting the facts together and scripting the conversation ahead of time is incredibly valuable. I know I’ve done that in my own life too. Thank you for the advice on that.

Question: You also mentioned that a lot of us who have substance abusing family members are often given unsolicited advice but that we can drop the “shoulds” and we can always remember that we have a choice. You talk about always being ‘at choice’, can you talk more about that?

Beverly: Remember that whether your family member has substance use or mental illness, there’s a lot of stigma. There’s a tremendous amount of stigma. The people around you, in the guise of being concerned about you, will tell you what to do. They will tell you to leave, ‘Get rid of them. You don’t need a life like this. How can you stand this?’ You are at choice. It may be best for you to leave, it may be best for you to stay. You have to decide.

I remember this wonderful, wonderful psychiatrist that I spoke to when my husband was using way back when we were kids. I guess I was twenty-eight. I called him up, his name is Dr. Abe Twerski. He’s one of the giants in the treatment field and he’s in his eighty’s now. I said, “Abe, what do I do? He lied to me. But now he’s going to treatment, should I leave him?” Because my mom and mother-in-law were saying, “Leave,” and my husband was saying, “Why would you leave now? I’m getting well,” because you know, of course, treatment is the answer. But anyway, Abe said to me, “Do you love him?” And my heart melted. I loved him. I chose to stay. I never looked back. We really believe that love is the answer. But for some people, the love for themselves may require them to leave, so we don’t have your answer, we just invite you to let go of the shoulds, walk your loving path, and decide what’s best for you and your loved ones.

Brian: Excellent.

Question: As we get ready to wrap up this first episode, to conclude this conversation about the loving path in this first part of your book here, is there anything else you’d like to mention about BALM or about the loving path before we wrap up this conversation?

Beverly: First I just want to thank you so much for this opportunity to speak with everyone. Once my husband got clean and sober for the second time – after I essentially did what I teach other people to do and wrote about in my book – I realized that I had a mission in life. That mission was and is to help all families blaze the trail to recovery in their homes. In a very brief way, we’re sharing that path with you on this podcast. For some of you, that will be it. That’s all you’ll need. You’ll go ahead. If you need more, there is help, we’re here for you. This is something that we’re all in together. We don’t judge you or your loved one. We’re not about the stigma, we’re about the love and the recovery.

Brian: Perfect. Beverly, thank you so much for spending this time with us. I’m absolutely highly interested to learn more about this and provide more framework for the audience. Thanks again for this first episode and we will be talking to you again very soon.

Beverly: Looking forward to it. Thank you, Brian.

Brian: Absolutely.

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